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Shakil Akhtar 🇸🇦 🇵🇸

@debian Really? You had no problems with having debconf hosted in the Zionist state. You even refer to that illegal entity by the name "Israel". Does the Debian project have the same values as the Zionist state?
I understand a free software project not wanting to be on a proprietary platform, but this is ridiculous.

Calm down. Don't mix up leaving Xitter by @debian with your intifada dreams @shakil_tcs

@shakil_tcs @debian Unfortunately, Debian is not a free software project anymore, as the only installers they offer for the latest release contains proprietary software and installs proprietary software without asking the user.

@Suiseiseki @debian is it the case with regular software or only non-free firmware? My impression is that, they simply allow the non-free firmware to be the default iso.

@shakil_tcs @debian >with regular software or only non-free firmware
There is no difference between proprietary peripheral software and "regular" proprietary software, as both are software and both take the users freedom just as hard.

The whole idea of calling such software "firmware" is to *confuse* the user into thinking it's something other than software and unfortunately such scheme is very successful.

>they simply allow the non-free firmware to be the default iso.
They have made the explicit choice to include many proprietary programs in the installer that take the users freedom, meaning the installer is proprietary software and if that wasn't bad enough, they don't offer a free installer *at all*, rather than nonfree "just being the default".