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I do not have sympathy for people who have surrendered their free will.

Your ancestors for millennia toiled in the fields, you are an office worker.

Shut up.

@splitshockvirus
You ever try to, get such a person to change what they are doing? You'll encounter their iron will to stay the course xD

@hazlin

They were lied to. We were told you need a college degree to get a job otherwise you will work in fast food. We told everyone this.

There are Kings, Lords, Nobles, and Peasants.

We told every peasant they could become a noble if they learned how to read. Every peasant learned to read now they won't work the fields because they're expecting to become a noble. The problem being is that there isn't enough land for everyone to become a noble. There never was.

:apa: スプリットショックウイルス †

@hazlin

That's me providing a counter argument to my own anger at college graduates (I also am a college graduate).

I simultaneously hate people who expect the world to just hand them everything just because they have a paper that says they are an expert on $field_of_study

Where I live right now there is not an even my industry anymore. IT doesn't exist where I am, I can go fix a clinic's network but that's about it.

I am fine with this situation however because I have realized IT is a fake industry. If I wanted to get a job in it again I'd move to Texas or California.

@splitshockvirus
> They were lied to.

It is true, but since, everyone recommends college, it is hard to dodge the trap.

Honestly, it is a hard lie to get go of, to accept the truth that I was taught garbage for the first 26 years of my life xD

It is a lot of time to waste, you know xD ?

@hazlin

Anyone should be allowed to go to college. But we shouldn't tell high schoolers they must go to college.

My entire four years in HS were just teachers telling students how to take SAT and ACT scores as if your entire working life is just going to be college entrance exams.

First it's FCAT, then MCAT, ACT, SAT, ASVAB. But do any of you know firearms safety? Automotive mechanics? HVAC? Electrical?

I was denied a machinist job when I was 19 because I told the owner I was going to college. He wanted an employee for 5+ years and knew I'd leave once I graduated. Where I'm from there are no jobs for anyone with a degree.

@splitshockvirus You don't need college to learn how to be an architect.

People were becoming architects before colleges existed.

College is just an extension of high school. Where you drudge through low information books, and learn from teachers that do not teach.

A good teacher, or even a good book, can replace years in a classroom.

And, if neither of those are available, then you find a job that is tangentially related.

I've met at least one construction worker, that learned how to be an architect by, doing, instead of reading.

@hazlin

>You don't need college to learn how to be an architect.

You do if you want to get hired by an established firm. But if you want to make your own firm that's your business.

>College is just an extension of high school. Where you drudge through low information books, and learn from teachers that do not teach.

I hard disagree on this. Because professors are not teachers
They do not teach you, and it's not their job to teach you either. Their only job is to certify that you know the course material that the state has accredited them on. Your exams are really the only thing that matters in college. If you are overstressed about turning in homework it doesn't help you if you don't understand the course material. (you can easily just zombie your way through homework and still fail).

>And, if neither of those are available, then you find a job that is tangentially related.

This is kind of what I'm figuring out. There is no IT industry in BFEland, but there probably is someone who needs a John Deere GPS module firmware flashed and reprogrammed. I could probably make a pretty penny doing that. but 🤫 you didn't hear me say that

>I've met at least one construction worker, that learned how to be an architect by, doing, instead of reading.

You can but you'd also need to have a couple decades experience working in contracting to pull that off. Really anyone can become an architect, it just depends what you are architecting and what bid they are willing to accept on your contract.

@splitshockvirus
> You do if you want to get hired by an established firm.

Got to break the mind chains