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@Deus @mastodonindians Cant wait for a Whatsapp alternative.

@shakil_tcs @Deus @mastodonindians @prav

@Prav looks interesting. But its super confusing for now. The about page says something like:

"Prav App is convenient without vendor lock-in (unlike WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal etc). Except Quicksy, most apps are only convenient and come with vendor lock-in. We are complementing Quicksy with a more sustainable revenue and democratic governance model through a cooperative ownership and control. We are interoperable with Quicksy and happy to see if more people learn about Quicksy from us and join it instead of Prav too."

I dont really know what all of this means. What is Quicksy ? What does Prav app do ? Is it open source ? If yes, then where is the source code ? Who pays for Prav ? What do you mean by 'sustainable revenue' ? What is this 'democratic governance model' ? Do all users vote for every feature on Prav ?

Too complicated for me imo. Can't imagine how its going to be for a non-tech user.

@vijay40 @shakil_tcs @Deus @mastodonindians @prav

Quicksy is a chat app with user experience similar to WhatsApp, Telegram or Signal (sign up with an SMS OTP and find other Quicksy users automatically). Prav App is similar to Quicksy from a user experience point of view, but difference is in how much control users have over the service. https://codeberg.org/prav/ has the source code. Users pay for Prav. Regular subscription income directly from users makes it sustainable.

@vijay40 @shakil_tcs @Deus @mastodonindians @prav We are in the process of registering Prav as a multi state cooperative society (we need 50 members from two states and we are very close to that target now). Users have an option to join the cooperative, if they want to involve in prav decision making. For a non tech users, they probably won't ask these questions. For them, they only need to install the app and enter phone number, start chatting with friends.

@praveen @shakil_tcs @Deus @mastodonindians @prav

So this is what I understand about Prav and the information that should be conveyed in the home page.

1. Prav is an open-source messaging app which uses the XMPP protocol.

2. Prav users can message with any XMPP enabled chat service . like Quicksy, etc. etc.

3. Prav uses phone numbers for discovery so users can upload their contacts and find who else is using the platform.

4. Prav is paid app and charges Rs X/user.

Details about the democratic governance and structuring can be provided through progressive navigation.

@praveen @shakil_tcs @Deus @vijay40 That's correct. (The plan is that prav will also give option of registration without phone number in its main release, like username@prav.app will be the user address).

Currently, it is in public beta and you can try for free of cost.

The binary for android app is at beta.prav.app

and the source code is here codeberg.org/prav

@praveen @shakil_tcs @Deus @mastodonindians @prav

Yep, about page feels much better now ! I think maybe also consider clarifying the paid aspect of the app. But definitely a big upgrade imo

@vijay40 @shakil_tcs @Deus @mastodonindians @prav It is already answered in the FAQ. Do you think we should have it in about page itself?

@praveen @shakil_tcs @Deus @mastodonindians @prav

I think it should be in the home page actually. It is a critical aspect of the service, given that most other messaging services are free.

@vijay40 @shakil_tcs @Deus @mastodonindians @prav I have asked the team about this suggestion. But I feel we should not put a lot of information in the homepage as well. Everyone visiting the site may not want to know every single detail about the project. So we have to decide how much information should be highlighted.

@vijay40 @shakil_tcs @Deus @mastodonindians @prav Though we should try to collect feedback from many non technical people about the website and adapt.

@praveen @shakil_tcs @Deus @mastodonindians @prav

You are the best judge based on accumulated feedback. Just my 2 cents.